Medi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:21 pm
Good afternoon (or whatever time it is for you when you read this initially),
As I am the admin with the least to do with this circumstance (outside of approving and facilitating an IC council action that I had no part in), I'll be the one formally addressing this.
As I understand, you're wishing to appeal against the PK of your character and the Lonestar bans. Your argument and rational appears to be that you're arguing there was some sort of malpractice on part of the players and/or staff; namely that your character should not have been arrested, should not have been PKed, and should not have gotten the job bans to begin with for various facts.
I'm all for fairness though so let's start looking into the physical evidence instead of what people may have said a while back which, unless I get a direct statement from them now, I'll only consider as Hearsay until further.
1. Regarding the overall investigation. The issue is not that Rin has the radio but that it was overheard by a member other than Lonestar. This is a direct violation of Lonestar SOP which distinctly calls for legal charges:
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As such, it's well within the Marshal's purview to investigate this matter which they did. This of course, lead to the ultimate escape by Rin into Maint with their belongings. This, with sufficient evidence, could result in a charge of 207 with 205 to follow if the bribery was found to be factual.
As a result of Rin getting caught with the PDA and ID which I observed them destroying while ghosting through the area, the actions taken by the Marshals seems reasonable when they were previously reported missing / stolen. If Rin hadn't actually done anything wrong, then a reasonable person would have likely provided the items briefly as they were requested to avoid problems.
A four page fax was then sent with a council decision which called for the demotion of Rin which, given the circumstances, was well within their purview to do.
After Rin was charged, demoted, and moved to HUT- I personally observed as Rin walked out of the door and refused verbal commands by Mariya. As such, 509 may take effect at this point.
The above statements are not meant to be points of argument but otherwise known facts that aren't open to contest outside of the interpretations that came from those noted facts. Please explain how Rin, or anyone in this circumstance, wouldn't be entitled to a PK and Job Sanctions? To make matters worse, it's documented that you knowingly and intentionally attempted to bypass the PK and Job Ban as a Colonist.
The radio being 'overheard by a member of medical' was a blatant lie and only brought up because Reddington, someone who played medical had friends in medical, who had them falsify testimony to say, 'oh yeah i definitely heard something over the radio' after I called her out on their theft. Keep in mind that the shift in Lonestar radio policy was spearheaded by Redd, and put into effect within the same week (I think? It was very recent.) as this situation - meaning I wasn't 'up to date' on the sudden shift in rules made solely to spite me as an individual because they didn't approve of my playstyle - I.E., "The airwaves should be free, and transparency is good." Along with me casually calling them out on poor decisions on multiple occasions. Like I said, the Silver Eye being stolen by Redd was a far greater crime than me informing the Marshals of my radio abuse - but focus was stuffed on me for allegedly 'abusing my radio'.
As was repeatedly stated, by myself, mind - the evidence against me wasn't gathered during the round. Zero investigation into whether or not I was lyin'. Half of the crimes I was convicted of had zero gathering of evidence: From fraud, the alleged bribe, and the other half, i.e. breakout, was begrudgingly admitted that there was not enough evidence to charge me for. etc. Zero investigation was made into my financial records - which was due to the fact that there was no evidence of fraud in mine or Lonestar's accounts. It was intentionally left out solely because there was no evidence to suggest a bribe was made on purpose - and me (allegedly) saying that I bribed someone doesn't make it true.
Notice how what I said in interviews was left as 'obscure'. Despite me talking in interviews for roughly an hour and being recorded the entire time, with my testimony being sufficient enough to keep me from being charged with breaking out, and how the 'unknown means which I possibly broke out' with is described as pure fact in the fax.
I had stashed everything that wasn't replaceable. I had 'broken into' my department to get a guest pass made through Wilson, I believe and put it inside a PDA, and stated repeatedly that, "I went back through maintenance and found my coat, so I have that much at least." Not that it was an act of god, but rather that the fact I had to dispute 'finding' a new coat (from again, 'breaking' into my department since Redd refused to make me a new ID following the alleged kidnapping) the Executive Locker which I intentionally left unlocked as part of the ruse and in the main lobby of Lonestar) and win in an argument against marshals who were declaring my guilt already at the front door of my department would take an act of god. I believe I actually popped it (the guest pass) out of my PDA and flashed it to the Marshals outside the Garden and demonstrated that it was totally defunct of any access before flushing it down disposals along with the rest of my gear and stood by the front door to await arrest. (My ID card was in the Bar Guest Pass machine, and was never found from what I recall).
There, I was gunned down and taken into the marshals in near critical condition with my bleeding being ignored before dying before I could be interviewed, and left there after Soteria doctors were dumb enough to say that I somehow committed suicide while handcuffed and full of bullet shrapnel. The Marshals had multiple officers see me suddenly keel over and more than enough evidence to say to the Soteria medical staff, "What? No, they dropped dead literally infront of us." based on that alone - but they chose not to because they didn't want to. Therefore, sufficient evidence of my guilt could not be presented nor gathered. However, hearsay was used and overly emphasized as solid fact to remove me from my position, and stuffed in a cell without a radio and without being allowed to appeal the decision ICly due to repeated denied access to a fax machine.
Hence my irritation. That's the jobban from CEO: Circumstantial evidences provided as fact with near zero hard evidence: no funds being used to pay anyone in bribes, no misappropriated machinery, no eyewitnesses seeing me get dragged off / breaking out, ignoring the fact that I turned myself in after being missing out of my cell for 20 minutes following intentionally burning myself on cables so that I could explain that I used makeshift tools to open up doors - and actually leaving a trail of some doors that were bolted open using the omnitool - on my endeavors, ignoring my interview and the tools I was carrying post recapture, the trail of dead roaches I made in maints, etc. They were determined to find me guilty from the start and ignored anything contradictory.
The following day / Round that I played, I joined up as a Cargo Technician, broke into the CEO's office as the sole member of the department around after doing the absolute max I could do to fulfil bounties, to get the tidbits disk. I got the disk, and sold the ancient neko statue along with other random CEO gear because that's literally what it's there for. It's something you sell to bolster your funds since it has no other practical use. This led to admins faxing Rebel0 directly an itemized list of things I sold when I'm the sole cargo worker on duty. Everything that happened that round was fermented from past rounds of being antagonized and counter-antagonizing and put into motion from Staff acting out of character for ROBERT RYAN HIMSELF, ordering Marshals to look into 'who sold the funny ceo gear'. Note, that this followed a shift of the 'you're banned 5ever' from CEO, to a 24 hour jobban from CEO, because after debating it, it was agreed upon that the evidence was shakily founded, and me being intentionally kept dead to prevent me from contributing to the Low Council meeting was shitty.
I was accused of masquerading as a CEO despite being in the cargo backroom working by myself in Factorio mode, with a guest pass that read, 'Executive Mirkir' and a Goldilocks suit that was just added recently. I never outwardly presented myself as a CEO to anyone - and repeatedly told people in verifiable radio logs that I'm not the CEO any more, but still one in spirit. It was in short, a
tongue in cheek joke that whoever was observing took personally. I was more than foretelling into people that I was 'just' a cargo tech for twenty-four hours, and until that point no one had argued that using guest passes to give yourself a title that shows you as "Rin MIrkir (as Executive Mirkir)" was anything but people fucking around. People semi-regularly had guest passes made for them that said shit like, "Gay Cat" and "Low Income HIreling" "Robert Ryan" (for Wilson) in Lonestar when we'd hire random schmucks to do our mining / general recycling through RecyclePasses (Guest Passes with a unique name so we'd know it wasn't someone breaking in). It was a sudden shift in policy to spite me, yet again.
So, falsely accused of masquerading as a CEO, I was brought in for an interview despite having 0 CEO items on me, a guest pass that openly broadcasted that I am not Executive Mirkir, but Rin Mirkir (As Executive Mirkir) and radio logs of me literally telling people that I am not the CEO, I was charged with masquerading as a CEO, held in the brig, and then moved to HuT when fingerprinting revealed that - yeah, no one else had been in the entirely unpopulated Lonestar department with 0 other workers, meaning the only possible suspect was me. Staff presented this as me being 'found out' by the Marshals, rather than them being literally pointed at me and told to fuck me in the ass, which was the actual case. You can see the wild argument I raised in the original ban record of this in the discord under admin-announcements.
After being locked up and ignored for four hours, I redecorated my cell with the omni-tool and did nothing for four hours. Upon round end, it was delayed so staff could adminPM me about how I 'totally got caught with my pants down' rather than them actually factually directly telling the Marshals that I stole stuff as ROBERT RYAN. I was irritated at this, and after doing NOTHING for four hours in my cell to be a nuisance - I did not break out, I did not damage walls, I did not damage people, I did not yell, I did not scream, I did not go "I'm going to fuckin kill you!!", I said, "Let's go." and followed the WO out of my cell at a starving walking pace with another officer directly behind me after they told me to freeze, and me saying, "I'd rather take the elevator. Let's go." I had done almost nothing to antagonize them the entire shift because I well and truly didn't care. I entertained myself in mild meager ways by printing Kazcoin, getting Marshals to sell it, etc. until that point - and we met with Mariya standing in the hallway whom I thought I was to follow since they wordlessly left after I said, "Nah, let's go." while standing by the door. Quantifying that as a jailbreak is a gross mischaracterization of what happened. I said lets go, and they opened up my cell and left it open.
The second keypoint is that people keep saying that I had 'plenty of time to follow commands', ignoring the fact that the "Ground." "Or Die." followed me being magdumped with '.408', and only having four seconds to respond - with me screaming over the radio that I was being shot by Mariya.
[22:05:10] chB-cnvL SAY: Warrant Officer Lichzand-Sankinova/Rebel0 : Go ahead and freeze. (Pointing to cryo in the HUT cell)
[22:05:13] chB-cnvL SAY: Rin Mirkir/Notwoyk : Nah, shifts over.
[22:05:16] chB-cnvL SAY: Rin Mirkir/Notwoyk : Let's go.
(WO walks out of room leaving door open for second officer in room, Rin walks out of HuT)
[22:05:20] chB-cnvL ATTACK: Rebel0/(Mariya Lichzand-Sankinova) shot (/obj/item/projectile/bullet/heavy_rifle_408) Notwoyk/(Rin Mirkir)
[22:05:20] chB-cnvL ATTACK: Rebel0/(Mariya Lichzand-Sankinova) shot (/obj/item/projectile/bullet/heavy_rifle_408) Notwoyk/(Rin Mirkir)
[22:05:24] chB-cnvL SAY: Warrant Officer Lichzand-Sankinova/Rebel0 : Escaping.
[22:05:24] chB-cnvL SAY: Rin Mirkir/Notwoyk : Wh-.
[22:05:27] chB-cnvL SAY: Warrant Officer Lichzand-Sankinova/Rebel0 : Ground.
[22:05:28] chB-cnvL SAY: Warrant Officer Lichzand-Sankinova/Rebel0 : Or die.
[22:05:29] chB-cnvL SAY: Rin Mirkir/Notwoyk : Mariya just shot me.
[22:05:32] chB-cnvL ATTACK: Rebel0/(Mariya Lichzand-Sankinova) shot (/obj/item/projectile/plasma) Notwoyk/(Rin Mirkir) (INTENT: HELP)
Notice how I say 'Mariya just shot me' to the officer behind me at the same time they said "Or die.", and less than four seconds passed before I'm getting beamed with plasma. Now keep in mind that I have to read it - register what I read, while confused from the fact that I thought I was following them to cryo, and now sandwiched inbetween them and an officer who are both visibly carrying nonlethal weaponry. They opted to go straight for lethals not because it was called for, but because they wanted to. As Dongels said, I was "passively resisting." Passive. Do you repeatedly blast someone in the head because they walk (while starving and at total movement slowdown) with you into a secure area they're not permitted in, or do you stop draw a weapon and say, "Get back in your cell."?
I didn't refuse commands. I didn't have time to REGISTER I was being commanded by anything until she fucking started unloading. Again, you can see the logs and note how I literally die the same tick that I scream over the radio, "
Oh god she's killing me!" Thus, I do not believe you when you say you personally witnessed me refuse commands, because I didn't have enough time TO refuse them.
The attempts at circumventing the ban, i.e. "05-May-2022 | Found playing as Rinn Mirkir (Colonist) inside LS with the id card Executive Mikir Guest pass. It's obvious what they are doing at this point. If this presists over the next few days, or they do something soo fucking dumb they are going to have a talk with administration. ~dongels [-]" were from me being hired as Rinn Mirkir, my Warrant Officer Mirkir character to assist Lonestar as a colonist. Note that my character was not accused of being an evil fraudulent CEO while they were working in the backrooms to help set up factorio for the new cargo workers that didn't know how to do the role and asked me for help - and the Executive was tongue in cheek because I was explaining to them how the fuckin' job works. Leave it to Dongels to misrepresent something.
